Curse

Iuris · Dec 04, 2010, 10:21 AM // 10:21

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Originally Posted by Dont Eat My Pie

I've been reading up a lot on the game recently, and God Waking Amongst Mere Mortals is a title I would love to get (everyone else too I'm guessing :P), but I'm starting fresh with no money or experience. Most titles are "go out and do this" type titles, but a few look like they will cost A LOT of money. I read somewhere that Drunkard costs upwards of 1,000 Platinum. I have 2 Platinum. Also, the hall of monuments, which can be filled with expensive weapons and armor. Is it realistic for me to have these goals with GW2 approaching? Will I obtain the money along the way, or will I have to farm for it?

Thanks Again!

Of course it's possible to achieve all these. Anet have clarified that the GW1 servers will stay up even after GW2 launches and that you will be able to gain HoM points even after GW2 launches.

However, you must realize that this means a LOT of work. A LOOOOT. Really, it will. It's primarily meant to apply to the players who have already done everything in the game.

Try this: how fast do you earn money? Measure yourself over a few days if you have to. Now, calculate how long it will take you to get:
-elite armor at 75k + 400 base materials + 40 rare materials + optional materials
-sweet tooth title 10000 points * 100+ gold per point

Etc. etc. etc. It's possible, but it's a matter of years, likely.

Also, 30/50 is much much easier to get to than GWAMM, especially since it also recognizes non-max titles.

Lord Mip · Dec 04, 2010, 05:57 PM // 17:57

Once you get to know the game better, you'll find more efficient ways of making money. There are easy ways of making more than 30 platinum an hour and you can make a lot more with certain methods. Still, it will take very long since to buy all the things you need a lot of money. If I were to make a bit of a guess, I'd say you need more than 10000 platinum if you want to get 50/50. Getting GWAMM is easier: You will probably make all the money you need doing tasks that add to the title. Still, it's quite a gargatuan task which will take around 500-1000 (rough guess) hours to complete, depending on your efficiency and the titles you choose to max. Still, it's a lot of fun to go for. I'm also doing it and I'm still enjoying myself

Dont Eat My Pie · Dec 04, 2010, 08:19 PM // 20:19

Thanks again for all of the responses!

I reached level 20 and noticed I achieved a survivor title, so I figured that would be a good place to start if I could. I researched a little bit and discovered Killroys Boxing, so I got to Eye of The North (almost died on the way D

and started doing that. An old friend who doesn't play much any more told me I would get more experience in Hard Mode so he helped me through all of the EoTN missions to unlock it. Long story short, Late last night I got my Legendary Survivor Title and accrued some money and items along the way

A couple more questions (I'm full of them lol):

Is a purple q9 inscribable item worth any less than a gold q9 inscribable item? They seem to be identical to me (they are both max damage)

Are items priced solely on the skin? For example: I found a q9 gold Bronze Crusher which just looks beautiful and a q9 gold Break Hammer with looks a little bland

Should i use a perfect salvage kit to get crappy mods off of good items before selling them?

Thanks again

~Dont Eat My Pie

Voodoo Rage · Dec 04, 2010, 09:31 PM // 21:31

Congrats on the title, that is awesome.

The reality is that 99% of the items that drop in the normal PvE areas aren't really worth the time to try to sell (most players just merch them). Nowadays most of the stuff worth more than 5k is going to come from dungeon chests or elite areas of the game (Underworld, Fissure of Woe, etc...). If you have a question about a skin (whether it is valuable or not), you can just pop onto this site and do a quick search in the Ventari's Corner forum and see if it is valuable (if you see nothing but threads that say things like "Low End Storage Clearout" or stuff like that, you can assume it isn't very rare). You DO want to identify them first and keep an eye out for valuable mods worth saving (most mods are not worth saving). Yes, the gold items are considered more valuable than purple. Ultimately it's what your time is worth, just about any max damage gold item CAN be sold for 1-3k at least if you want to spend the time trying to find a buy but personally I'd rather be doing other stuff. The only time you really need a perfect kit is if you need to pull a perfect mod off of a nice weapon you can't afford to lose (or pulling runes off of your own armor).

Depending on your available storage, you usually want to just start a collection of various weapons and mods which are always useful to have. Remember, unused heroes can hold weapons for you. Also, when you get to Nightfall, you will be FORCED to play certain heroes so you want to make sure you have weapons for all professions (although it really doesn't matter too much).

ogre_jd · Dec 04, 2010, 09:40 PM // 21:40

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Originally Posted by Dont Eat My Pie

Is a purple q9 inscribable item worth any less than a gold q9 inscribable item? They seem to be identical to me (they are both max damage)

Except for rare skins, purples are basically vendor trash/Hero weapons. It's mostly a status thing that is completely and utterly meaningless because no one will EVER see the purple/gold/blue status of your weapon unless you open a trade dialogue with someone to show them.

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Are items priced solely on the skin? For example: I found a q9 gold Bronze Crusher which just looks beautiful and a q9 gold Break Hammer with looks a little bland

The rarity of the skin combined with whether or not its permanent stats (damage, armor, energy, and blue powers if it's non-inscribable) are maxed or not. If they're not maxed, you can pretty much vend all but the rarest of rare items.

Not sure, since I don't pay attention to the economy much, but I think pretty much the only sellable ones are skins that ONLY drop in dungeon chests or from the elite areas (The Deep/Urgoz's Warren, Domain of Anguish, the Underworld, the Fissure of Woe, and maybe the Tomb of Primeval Kings, if that's got any exclusives). If it's something that can drop off of trash mobs in the normal areas of the games, odds are that it'll be worthless to most players.

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Should i use a perfect salvage kit to get crappy mods off of good items before selling them?

Nah. If the mods're crappy, people'll just overwrite them with their own mods, so just leave them in. Not worth wasting a perfect kit on since they shouldn't be worth less than a clean version if any of the replacable mods on it aren't perfect. Obviously, though, a clean weapon or one with imperfect mods (or the less desirable types, like +45 Health while Hexed) will be worth less than ones with perfect desirable mods (+15% damage while Health is over 50% is awesome, but +14% damage while Health is over 50% is complete and utter garbage while trying to sell).

Iuris · Dec 04, 2010, 10:11 PM // 22:11

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Is a purple q9 inscribable item worth any less than a gold q9 inscribable item? They seem to be identical to me (they are both max damage)

Although they are functionally the same, the market is so saturated by now, that only the very rarest purple items have any worth at all. Practically no purple item with q9 is worth anything.

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Are items priced solely on the skin? For example: I found a q9 gold Bronze Crusher which just looks beautiful and a q9 gold Break Hammer with looks a little bland

Skin, requirements and whether it's inscribable or not is all that matters. Note that very very few items with req. over 9 are possible to sell. So, you start with the baseline of req9 inscribable - and from there on, it's all just the skin.

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Should i use a perfect salvage kit to get crappy mods off of good items before selling them?

Certainly not. You might want to spend a perfect salvage kit for perfect mods that could be worth some money, but there's practically no market for non-perfect mods any more.

Dont Eat My Pie · Dec 06, 2010, 02:27 AM // 02:27

I just wanted to thank everyone that responded one more time

All of this information helped me a lot, I seem to have a handle on the game for now, and I'm ripping through the campaigns. The only questions I seem to have now are price checks, so an admin or moderator can close this thread.

Thanks again

~ Dont Eat My Pie

Dec 04, 2010, 09:31 PM // 21:31	#24
Voodoo Rage Desert Nomad Join Date: Mar 2008 Location: Sacramento, CA Guild: Geezers Profession: R/	Congrats on the title, that is awesome. The reality is that 99% of the items that drop in the normal PvE areas aren't really worth the time to try to sell (most players just merch them). Nowadays most of the stuff worth more than 5k is going to come from dungeon chests or elite areas of the game (Underworld, Fissure of Woe, etc...). If you have a question about a skin (whether it is valuable or not), you can just pop onto this site and do a quick search in the Ventari's Corner forum and see if it is valuable (if you see nothing but threads that say things like "Low End Storage Clearout" or stuff like that, you can assume it isn't very rare). You DO want to identify them first and keep an eye out for valuable mods worth saving (most mods are not worth saving). Yes, the gold items are considered more valuable than purple. Ultimately it's what your time is worth, just about any max damage gold item CAN be sold for 1-3k at least if you want to spend the time trying to find a buy but personally I'd rather be doing other stuff. The only time you really need a perfect kit is if you need to pull a perfect mod off of a nice weapon you can't afford to lose (or pulling runes off of your own armor). Depending on your available storage, you usually want to just start a collection of various weapons and mods which are always useful to have. Remember, unused heroes can hold weapons for you. Also, when you get to Nightfall, you will be FORCED to play certain heroes so you want to make sure you have weapons for all professions (although it really doesn't matter too much). Last edited by Voodoo Rage; Dec 04, 2010 at 09:37 PM // 21:37..

Dec 04, 2010, 05:57 PM // 17:57	#22
Lord Mip Krytan Explorer Join Date: Aug 2006 Location: Somewhere in a distant land.. Guild: Reign of Judgement [RoJ] Profession: E/	Once you get to know the game better, you'll find more efficient ways of making money. There are easy ways of making more than 30 platinum an hour and you can make a lot more with certain methods. Still, it will take very long since to buy all the things you need a lot of money. If I were to make a bit of a guess, I'd say you need more than 10000 platinum if you want to get 50/50. Getting GWAMM is easier: You will probably make all the money you need doing tasks that add to the title. Still, it's quite a gargatuan task which will take around 500-1000 (rough guess) hours to complete, depending on your efficiency and the titles you choose to max. Still, it's a lot of fun to go for. I'm also doing it and I'm still enjoying myself

Dec 04, 2010, 08:19 PM // 20:19	#23
Dont Eat My Pie Pre-Searing Cadet Join Date: Dec 2010	Thanks again for all of the responses! I reached level 20 and noticed I achieved a survivor title, so I figured that would be a good place to start if I could. I researched a little bit and discovered Killroys Boxing, so I got to Eye of The North (almost died on the way D and started doing that. An old friend who doesn't play much any more told me I would get more experience in Hard Mode so he helped me through all of the EoTN missions to unlock it. Long story short, Late last night I got my Legendary Survivor Title and accrued some money and items along the way A couple more questions (I'm full of them lol): Is a purple q9 inscribable item worth any less than a gold q9 inscribable item? They seem to be identical to me (they are both max damage) Are items priced solely on the skin? For example: I found a q9 gold Bronze Crusher which just looks beautiful and a q9 gold Break Hammer with looks a little bland Should i use a perfect salvage kit to get crappy mods off of good items before selling them? Thanks again ~Dont Eat My Pie

Dec 06, 2010, 02:27 AM // 02:27	#27
Dont Eat My Pie Pre-Searing Cadet Join Date: Dec 2010	I just wanted to thank everyone that responded one more time All of this information helped me a lot, I seem to have a handle on the game for now, and I'm ripping through the campaigns. The only questions I seem to have now are price checks, so an admin or moderator can close this thread. Thanks again ~ Dont Eat My Pie